tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8296380.post7575409360347269559..comments2024-01-15T18:37:16.075-05:00Comments on Sticky Crows: Fine, I'll weigh intornwordohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16581361982939423598noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8296380.post-9157032183079552562008-10-16T17:43:00.000-04:002008-10-16T17:43:00.000-04:00Hello All,New Torontonian here - moved from San Fr...Hello All,<BR/>New Torontonian here - moved from San Francisco in August. My partner and I have no intention of moving back...however...we are here on Work Permits and, thus, the move is considered "temporary". Now, despite the fact that I will be applying for Permanent Residence soon, I still have the right to vote in California State elections. Needless to say, I voted against Prop 8. And Adamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09249431596036880716noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8296380.post-1464206323200164032008-10-15T23:59:00.000-04:002008-10-15T23:59:00.000-04:00At this point in my life, I want to ensure that I ...At this point in my life, I want to ensure that I maintain my right to samesex divorce. That dumbass keeps coming back year after year asking for more stuff. It's over already!!donhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06879147983682175313noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8296380.post-73258832845970751552008-10-15T17:44:00.000-04:002008-10-15T17:44:00.000-04:00Perhaps the Mormon and Catholic church should lose...Perhaps the Mormon and Catholic church should lose their exempt tax status.Butchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09481663364693052582noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8296380.post-48511526449663716342008-10-15T16:02:00.000-04:002008-10-15T16:02:00.000-04:00Since I can't vote in CA either, all I can do is t...Since I can't vote in CA either, all I can do is trust that CA residents will make the correct decision when they vote on Prop 8.<BR/><BR/>So sad about Father Geoff. But then part of me asks why a person would willingly associate himself with a religion that considers him an abomination.<BR/><BR/>Mark :-)Mark in DEhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12478832787656152843noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8296380.post-86714655950660733162008-10-15T16:01:00.000-04:002008-10-15T16:01:00.000-04:00Nice point of view -- and I hate the fact that rel...Nice point of view -- and I hate the fact that religious leadership has to get involved and not really speak for the group - but in some narrow minded point of view or thinking. Sometimes they are missing the real message that should be spreading and end up going down the path of the Pharisees from before. Being intently focused on the nitty gritty does not all you to see the bigger picture andAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8296380.post-70688799983099783962008-10-15T15:29:00.000-04:002008-10-15T15:29:00.000-04:00I think the gay marriage issue is an imminent civi...I think the gay marriage issue is an imminent civil victory, especially when posts like yours spread the word. It can also be a spiritual victory because of people like Father Geoff. May all of you out there continue to tell people about this story.<BR/><BR/>(Psst: the second link in the post doesn't work for me.)Birdiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12852713057094279347noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8296380.post-83151388795901901212008-10-15T15:13:00.000-04:002008-10-15T15:13:00.000-04:00See, now there's a Christian who is truly standing...See, now there's a Christian who is truly standing up for his beliefs (right, em?). He's putting it on the line.<BR/><BR/>The house down the street has a "no on prop 8" sign, and when I saw it, my gut reaction was to get my scissors and cut the thing to bits. Not a very mature response, I know, but still.<BR/><BR/>I'm not allowed to discuss politics with my students, but God... it is so hard Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8296380.post-38226336734849102542008-10-15T14:37:00.000-04:002008-10-15T14:37:00.000-04:00excellent post, as always. maybe your could ask yo...excellent post, as always. maybe your could ask your sizeable readership to consider a donation to "no on 8" - we're way behind in fundraising, and that could make all the difference. here's the link<BR/><BR/>https://secure.ga4.org/01/equalityforallDennis & Doughttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08559681443848886890noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8296380.post-16950078430600564582008-10-15T14:04:00.000-04:002008-10-15T14:04:00.000-04:00Well put, Torn. I thought tax-exempt institutions ...Well put, Torn. I thought tax-exempt institutions couldn't get involved in politics by endorsing political "items"? Or risk losing that status. Despite Father's defrocking, I imagine there will be thousands of MCC and UCC congregations asking him to become a minister in their church.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8296380.post-64829978323958378442008-10-15T12:32:00.000-04:002008-10-15T12:32:00.000-04:00The main problem with all the money that those big...The main problem with all the money that those bigots are pouring into the state is that the voters were against the prop until they started broadcasting their well funded lies. <BR/><BR/>Of course this doesn't excuse the voters who seem willing to let their minds be overtaken.<BR/><BR/>Did you see the latest family values candidate who turned out to be a pedophile?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8296380.post-30575085612798876492008-10-15T11:17:00.000-04:002008-10-15T11:17:00.000-04:00I have no problem with the Catholic or Mormon Chur...I have no problem with the Catholic or Mormon Church promoting their ideas (free speech and all). I do have a problem, however, when <I>individuals</I> vote to impose their religion on others. It suggests that they don't really value freedom at all.<BR/><BR/>You forgot Massachusetts in your list of inclusive U.S. places. It was the first state to provide real marriage, not "separate but equal."GayProfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11289510184782252498noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8296380.post-6306832350853525812008-10-15T09:37:00.000-04:002008-10-15T09:37:00.000-04:00Don't even get me started on the church this early...Don't even get me started on the church this early in the morning!Roxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06109820610940479415noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8296380.post-56117157703309795462008-10-15T09:10:00.000-04:002008-10-15T09:10:00.000-04:00Oh, poo (since you hadn't mentioned any) on your n...Oh, poo (<I>since you hadn't mentioned any</I>) on your not being a strong writer--this was wonderfully and thoughtfully written. I'm glad you weighed in.<BR/><BR/>Father Geoff is in my thoughts and prayers and I hope the blessings that return to him as a result of this are many, as they should be. I hope they vote down this foolishness.Greghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14337889899066280559noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8296380.post-27171291479987972602008-10-15T09:07:00.000-04:002008-10-15T09:07:00.000-04:00I, too, have a great admiration for Fr. Geoff. Am...I, too, have a great admiration for Fr. Geoff. Among other things, he helps restore my faith that there are people who take the life and teachings of Jesus seriously and seek to live them. The actions taken by the institution, although not at all surprising to me, only reaffirm my rejection of the institution(s).<BR/><BR/>I recently saw an ad that Ihope is runnign in CA that attempts to Lemuelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15397995062492531171noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8296380.post-67713590275485701892008-10-15T08:47:00.000-04:002008-10-15T08:47:00.000-04:00I get what you are saying about outside influences...I get what you are saying about outside influences on the Prop 8 issue, but lots of gay groups are sending money from out of state, so we have to be careful about demonizing out of state support for the opposition. But I agree that religious groups that are funding support for Prop 8 should step back as they have no business meddling in political issues.<BR/><BR/>Of course, if the Pope made a dpastehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10813652943621759603noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8296380.post-23719990185243040662008-10-15T08:37:00.000-04:002008-10-15T08:37:00.000-04:00We can hope Father Geoff's message got out before ...We can hope Father Geoff's message got out before he got canned. And that he will find a more loving home. I don't know much about religious denominations and switching between them (is it like a baseball player being traded?), but hopefully another congregation will support him.Doughttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14065042871216479832noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8296380.post-62277314831820061982008-10-15T07:48:00.000-04:002008-10-15T07:48:00.000-04:00As they drove the nails into His hands Jesus said,...As they drove the nails into His hands Jesus said, "Father Forgive them". As the pelted Stephen with stones and beat out his life he said, "Lay not this sin to their charge". Father Geoff is a martyr along these same lines. Hate is strong and mocks the song of Peace on Earth good will toward men. edAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com