tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8296380.post115693477477019514..comments2024-01-15T18:37:16.075-05:00Comments on Sticky Crows: What God saystornwordohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16581361982939423598noreply@blogger.comBlogger31125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8296380.post-1157405212559091442006-09-04T17:26:00.000-04:002006-09-04T17:26:00.000-04:00One day I should write to you about my job. I've h...One day I should write to you about my job. I've heard it all. I meditate myself in a Zen like haze when I have to start teaching religion. I wish the university let us drink in class.Enemy of the Republichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17342253341470198835noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8296380.post-1157073196878120292006-08-31T21:13:00.000-04:002006-08-31T21:13:00.000-04:00Wonderful blog, TW, and a fascinating discussion. ...Wonderful blog, TW, and a fascinating discussion. Allow me to toss in my two drachmas:<BR/><BR/>Perhaps the whole issue of religious beliefs, and their political extensions, must be examined in context. Fundie Islam has its violent strains, but those are mostly based in countries that are still in post-colonial dictatorships (that we support directly or indirectly, like Saudi Arabia and Egypt),Sam Hollowayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00448159324211799467noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8296380.post-1157061369551424272006-08-31T17:56:00.000-04:002006-08-31T17:56:00.000-04:00perplexio: Fair enough, I named only two examples...<B>perplexio</B>: Fair enough, I named only two examples. Perhaps I should link to the comments sections on every wingnut haven imaginable, from Delphi.com's Freaky Fox forums to Stormfront to LittleGreenFootballs. Oh, notice I didn't. I'd hate to mess up TW's nice, tidy blog. Those are pure hate sites run, by the way, by (like it or not) your de facto political allies.<BR/><BR/>"I'm a teh l4m3https://www.blogger.com/profile/10982909927895165627noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8296380.post-1157056007482504892006-08-31T16:26:00.000-04:002006-08-31T16:26:00.000-04:00teh l4m3: Being a moderate love thy neighbor kind ...<B>teh l4m3</B>: Being a moderate love thy neighbor kind of Christian, most of us in the "middle" think of Pat Robertson as that crazy old uncle that won't shut up. He makes a lot of noise but basically he's harmless and the rest of us just kind of ignore him, "Oh what's crazy old Uncle Pat saying this time? Give him a copy of the latest <I>Left Behind</I> book, that'll keep him quiet for Perplexiohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09971805688658949769noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8296380.post-1157016907997920242006-08-31T05:35:00.000-04:002006-08-31T05:35:00.000-04:00I enjoy these kinds of posts more than the arse on...I enjoy these kinds of posts more than the arse ones. <BR/><BR/>You simply have to love religious people and their convictions. I don't know that there is anything in this world or another that I believe in 100%. Maybe I'm cynical.dawnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06185245267702087839noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8296380.post-1156988344482530012006-08-30T21:39:00.000-04:002006-08-30T21:39:00.000-04:00Its sad. I'm wondering if he'd think differently i...Its sad. I'm wondering if he'd think differently if it was his head on the block?<BR/><BR/>No one ever thinks that they would ever do anything wrong. That is until someone redefines what wrong is...Bugsyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14915837236872511912noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8296380.post-1156985023150730492006-08-30T20:43:00.000-04:002006-08-30T20:43:00.000-04:00Reminder to self: proofread comments more careful...Reminder to self: proofread comments more carefully.teh l4m3https://www.blogger.com/profile/10982909927895165627noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8296380.post-1156984855799707792006-08-30T20:40:00.000-04:002006-08-30T20:40:00.000-04:00"Bible-Thumpers may not be fun to be around but th..."Bible-Thumpers may not be fun to be around but they aren't calling for the destruction of Israel..."<BR/><BR/>Just because they're lately very quiet about it doesn't mean they don't want it to happen -- the sooner it happens, the sooner their millenialist fantasies come true.<BR/><BR/>"...nor are they suggesting the death of those with whom they don't agree."<BR/><BR/>No offense, Perplexio, but teh l4m3https://www.blogger.com/profile/10982909927895165627noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8296380.post-1156974592780087252006-08-30T17:49:00.000-04:002006-08-30T17:49:00.000-04:00That just makes me feel so sad inside. I'd have a...That just makes me feel so sad inside. I'd have a hard time not trying to engage him in discussion.<BR/><BR/>Perplexio makes a valid point, though.dpastehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10813652943621759603noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8296380.post-1156970416719950352006-08-30T16:40:00.000-04:002006-08-30T16:40:00.000-04:00Bible-Thumpers may not be fun to be around but the...Bible-Thumpers may not be fun to be around but they aren't calling for the destruction of Israel nor are they suggesting the death of those with whom they don't agree. They just shove that eternal damnation down everyone else's throat and use words like "heathen" when describing those whom don't share their views.<BR/><BR/>If a person doesn't believe in hell, the threat of eternal damnation fromPerplexiohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09971805688658949769noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8296380.post-1156967727854319542006-08-30T15:55:00.000-04:002006-08-30T15:55:00.000-04:00"Also funny is that I am much more tolerant of thi..."Also funny is that I am much more tolerant of this kind of fundamentalist talk than if it came from a Bible thumper."<BR/><BR/>I have an idea about this: if you're like me, you're sorta liberal, politically. And I think there's a tendency on our part to concern ourselves with cleaning house before heading with the mop bucket over to the neighbor's -- as opposed to many self-avowed teh l4m3https://www.blogger.com/profile/10982909927895165627noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8296380.post-1156964772363482542006-08-30T15:06:00.000-04:002006-08-30T15:06:00.000-04:00I think this is yet another example of a person wh...I think this is yet another example of a person who has been taught a religious doctrine without the benefit of critical thinking. It is not a belief because a belief implies that critical thinking took place and one was convinced of the validity, thus making it their belief. Instead it is a learned doctrine.<BR/><BR/>Many self-identifying Christians (like US President George W Bush) also act Mark in DEhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12478832787656152843noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8296380.post-1156960270186856482006-08-30T13:51:00.000-04:002006-08-30T13:51:00.000-04:00The disconnection between head and heart is what p...The disconnection between head and heart is what puzzles me, the insistence that the heart is naturally depraved, and that living the life of the heart is worthy of death. Much traditional Christianity is the same as Islam in this regard. There is more and more Fundamentalist violence going on in America these days, and perhaps we should identify it as terrorism.A Bear in the Woodshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11013721650938158869noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8296380.post-1156960106126139792006-08-30T13:48:00.001-04:002006-08-30T13:48:00.001-04:00I won't belong to a religeon where its own followe...I won't belong to a religeon where its own followers can't follow the rules. If "God" says thou shall not kill, then who are we to jump in and say "Yeah well - but if this happens then it's ok!" Because I'm sure "God" will have a different opinion on the matter when he meets us face to face.Lyvviehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03660287093457746992noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8296380.post-1156960080881568632006-08-30T13:48:00.000-04:002006-08-30T13:48:00.000-04:00If God told you to jump of a bridge, would you do ...If God told you to jump of a bridge, would you do it? Oh, right, I guess you would. <I>Sigh</I>GayProfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11289510184782252498noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8296380.post-1156958113455953162006-08-30T13:15:00.000-04:002006-08-30T13:15:00.000-04:00I have family who would answer those questions exa...I have family who would answer those questions exactly the same way. Thankfully I was raised by a Sicilian Catholic mother, the brainwashing never happened.The Persianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02233760538686915146noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8296380.post-1156954044119521012006-08-30T12:07:00.000-04:002006-08-30T12:07:00.000-04:00Good for you for keeping your eye rolling at bay. ...Good for you for keeping your eye rolling at bay. <BR/><BR/>I always say,"Organized religion is like organized crapping, it's just something I cannot wrap my head around." I'm not saying it makes any sense or contributes anything to this discussion, it's just something I always say.<BR/><BR/>Please don't turn into a suicide bomber due to your early schedule!Chunkshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14795176756081966512noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8296380.post-1156951524480706432006-08-30T11:25:00.000-04:002006-08-30T11:25:00.000-04:00He's a perfect example of what happens when religi...He's a perfect example of what happens when religion gets polarised. I think it's really, really sad.dantallionhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13018930605323027237noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8296380.post-1156950667436492392006-08-30T11:11:00.000-04:002006-08-30T11:11:00.000-04:00i just couldn't have this topic of conversation on...i just couldn't have this topic of conversation on my list. i'm no good at holding my tongue.Patriciahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05556535711209804501noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8296380.post-1156950320644606292006-08-30T11:05:00.000-04:002006-08-30T11:05:00.000-04:00Initiating a discussion about religion in a city l...Initiating a discussion about religion in a city like Montreal (significant populations of people with Jewish and Muslim backgrounds) is filed in my book under "duck and cover."madamerougehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07810831546798534636noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8296380.post-1156948890891722662006-08-30T10:41:00.000-04:002006-08-30T10:41:00.000-04:00"Also funny is that I am much more tolerant of thi..."Also funny is that I am much more tolerant of this kind of fundamentalist talk than if it came from a Bible thumper."<BR/><BR/><BR/>Why do you think that is?<BR/><BR/>I know I bite my tongue more when it's a professional situation, like when I'm speaking to a parent of a student. I've not spoken to anyone who feels that way about Islam though, so I don't know what I might do.rhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06980768449046443151noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8296380.post-1156948049629030662006-08-30T10:27:00.000-04:002006-08-30T10:27:00.000-04:00As a card carrying heathen, I never get the whole ...As a card carrying heathen, I never get the whole "God approves of my treating others like shit and/or inflicting pain on them" schtick.<BR/><BR/>You're a stronger man than I. I would HAVE rolled my eyes.dirk.mancusohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13681555593691365839noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8296380.post-1156946709184971872006-08-30T10:05:00.000-04:002006-08-30T10:05:00.000-04:00Torn, I think you (and others) may have long ago f...Torn, I think you (and others) may have long ago figured out that I come at life froma perspective of faith. Please note that I said "faith" and not "religion". <BR/><BR/>Your student reminds me all too much of many others in other worlds of religion. My observation is that they are neither "faith-ful" nor are they truly well versed in the [true] teachings of their religion. Most of these Lemuelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15397995062492531171noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8296380.post-1156945547320487282006-08-30T09:45:00.000-04:002006-08-30T09:45:00.000-04:00He may be caring and funny, but he's going to teac...He may be caring and funny, but he's going to teach his children the same beliefs unless his opinion can be changed.<BR/><BR/>Somehow, people like this don't think their beliefs are "opinion." To them, they're fact.<BR/><BR/>A tomato that's different isn't necessarily rotten. There are many (hundreds of?) species of tomato. Does he propose that only a single species of tomato be allowed to Doughttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14065042871216479832noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8296380.post-1156944819858900312006-08-30T09:33:00.000-04:002006-08-30T09:33:00.000-04:00Speaking of religion, I found myself looking aroun...Speaking of religion, I found myself looking around on the Bob Jones University website. I don't want to believe that this place really exists.Jasonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03606586997949252867noreply@blogger.com